VEPR-12 Follow Up: Magazines and Slug Accuracy

Magazines

As part of my review of the VEPR-12 shotgun in Issue 12 of Recoil, I purchased 3 SGM 12 round magazines. They were the only magazines I could find at the time that held more than 5 rounds, and they were the only US made magazines.  The SGM Magazines exhibited some significant problems right out of the box.  The followers obviously dragged, and loading the magazines up, the shells would not feed up freely when pushed out by hand. Shooting these magazines at all before trying to fix them would have been a waste of time. They also would not insert into the magazine well as easily as the OEM magazines, and they would not drop free. I did not bother contacting SGM about these issues because of my prior experience with their customer service with Saiga-12 magazines in 2010.

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Followers binding right out of the box.

The reason for the follower/shell binding issues is readily apparent from simply looking at the magazine. The SGM magazines are a large injection molded part. The general principle of injection molding is that plastic is heated to melting point, then forced into a mold at high pressure. The part is then cooled in the mold for a short time, then ejected, and the process starts over again for the next part. The SGM magazines show signs of “sink” on the outside of the magazine body that correspond with the points where the shells and follower bind. There are a number of processing or mold design issues that can cause sink; either way SGM’s mold isn’t running right to produce parts.

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Sink lines apparent on the outside of the part.

I was able to make my magazines work by wrapping sand paper around the magazine follower and pushing it through with a stick until they were able to pass through the magazine body freely.

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Magazine after fitting.

The insertion of the magazines and ability to drop free improved as I used them at home practicing my reloads. Plastic was being shaved away as it contacted the metal parts of the VEPR-12. The magazines proved reliable at two local 3 gun matches. I purchased an Arredondo Magazine coupler so I could start with two magazines on the gun, making reloads faster. I’m two weeks out from the 2014 Ironman 3 Gun match when this happened:

Examining the magazines after the stage showed that the first magazine was missing material out of the locking tab where the mag catch interfaces with it. The other two magazines also show similar wear marks on the locking tabs that I can only assume will eventually wear through. In fairness to SGM, perhaps the weight of two loaded magazines coupled exacerbated this issue. However even the uncoupled magazine is showing these signs of wear, it just gets used less.

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The magazine that fell out

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Magazine that has been used the least

By comparison I have had zero issues with the Russian 8 round OEM Magazines imported by Legion USA. They do not show signs of wear on the locking tab that the SGM do.  If you’re using your VEPR-12 for something your life depends upon, use the OEM Magazines.

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The downside to using Russian OEM 8 rounders is the need to make the VEPR-12 922R compliant. For competitive purposes, the 8 rounders function but put the shooter at a disadvantage against other competitors with 12-20 round magazines. I should note that the R&R racing magwells favored by competitors use highly modified SGM Magazines. These mag wells and magazines do not use the existing locking tab, and instead use a slot cut into the side of the magazine, that is less prone to wear/failure.

I’m glad this happened at a local match that cost me $15.00 + ammo to shoot vs a major match with much more time and expense involved.   I was able to take corrective action before going to Ironman.  A friend recommended that I should reinforce the locking tabs by drilling and tapping some set screws into the back of the magazine and reinforcing it with JB Weld.  I followed this advice and fitting the new reinforced tabs to the gun with a file.

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These tabs did hold up and lasted the duration of the Ironman 3 Gun Match.  The coupled SGM mags were my primary start magazines and I would reload with the 8 rounders after that.  The LRBHO feature on the SGM magazines worked intermittently so I offset the magazines so I could more easily rack the charging  handle when switching to the second magazine.

If you buy SGM magazines expect to have to do some modifications to make them function reliably. Inspect them regularly for wear to avoid having your mag drop out on the ground.

Slug Accuracy

As part of my initial testing of the VEPR-12 I zeroed with slugs at 25 yards and opened and closed the top cover multiple times to check for zero shift.  It stayed zeroed relatively well and I did not have a hard time hitting the 18-24″ slugs plates at 50-75 yards commonly encountered at local multigun matches.

While practicing for the Ironman 3 Gun match on an MGM Targets double spinner with slugs at 60 yards, it became apparent that my zero would not be sufficient to hit the smaller 8″ plate on top with slugs at 50 yards.  I rezeroed at 50 yards with a 4″ group, then cleaned the gun.  When I went to practice again a week later, I could no longer hit the 8″ plate on the double spinner.  The zero shifted enough from opening and closing the top cover that when combined with human error I was off target.  I cleaned the VEPR-12 and rezeroed again the day before the match.  I got a 5″ Group at 50 yards.  Needless to say I was concerned about being able to rotate the Double Spinners.  They are worth 60 seconds a piece in penalties if not rotated and  there would be up to five of them at the match.  And I was nearing the edge of the mechanical accuracy required to rotate them.   I decided to not clean the VEPR-12 during the match to avoid effecting the zero.  Thankfully my plan worked and I was able to rotate the mandatory slug double spinners with little effort.  The VEPR-12 worked for the duration aside from some misfeeds with Remington Game loads out of the SGM mags on the first stage I shot.  I otherwise did not have any malfunctions.

Overall the VEPR-12 was easier to use than the SAIGA-12s I have used in the past at the same match.  The mag well and straight insert mags were much easier to reload with and made it less of a chore than with the SAIGA-12.  I do intend to investigate other optics mounting options and eagerly wait for quality US Made larger capacity magazines.

 

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2 Gun Action Challenge Match 5-17-2014

3/40 Shooters

Rifle: Windham Weaponry SRC-308
Midwest Industries Rail
Leupold MKIV 1.5-5x CMR
CMC Trigger
Magpul 25 Round .308 Mags with AF Weapons Coupler

Pistol: Suarez International Glock 17 with Trijcon RMR07

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2 Gun Action Challenge Match 4-19-2014

4/55 Overall, 2nd Tac Scope.

Rifle: Windham Weaponry .308 AR with Aimpoint M4

Pistol: TSD Combat Systems Glock 17 with Warren/Tactical/Sevigny Sights

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Superstition Mountain Mystery 3 Gun 2014

SMM3G 2014 is done.  I had a great time shooting with the  range officers on Wednesday and Thursday before the main match began.  I ended up placing 17th/53 Shooters in Tac-Limited or about 70% of the match winner’s score.  This is up 5% from my place last year of 13/37 shooters or 65% of the match winner’s score.

I used the same upper from the CAV-15 MKII Abuse test with an Aimpoint M4 and TSD Kompressor added.  This upper had standard M4 Handguards, and was not free floated.  I used a very basic upper deliberately to demonstrate that dedicated 3 gun uppers are not necessary to shoot reasonably well, particularly in Tac-Limited division.

The Beretta 1301 Competition shotgun I used I had only had for about a week and only used at one local match.  It worked flawlessly and is currently probably the best out of the box 3 Gun Shotgun.  My full review of the 1301 can be found in issue 13 of Recoil Magazine at the end of May 2014.

I used my TSD Combat Systems Glock 17 with Warren Tactical Sevigny Sights.  It just works and continues to be a little more accurate than my stock 17.

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Recoil Magazine: VEPR-12 Article

I’m now a freelance contributor to Recoil Magazine. My first article on the VEPR-12 was just published in issue 12. The VEPR-12 is a big improvement over the earlier SAIGA-12.

Buy the digital copy online here:
http://www.recoilweb.com/magazine/issue-12/

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GWACS Armory CAV-15 MKII Abuse Test

Still functioning, still zeroed.

Hahn Precision sights at www.hahn-precision.com

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photography by Whiskey Two Four

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SHTF+ Wrap

Honor Point manufactures quality Nylon gear all made in the United States.  Honor Point has developed an enhanced version of the SHTF (Stop Heat TransFer) Wrap with thermal insulating material.  The SHTF+ performs even better than the original on metal handguards/free float tubes.
Order online from my webstore here or from Honor Point here

If you’re a dealer interested in the SHTF+ Wrap or other Honor Point products send me an email to SinistralRifleman@hotmail.com

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2 Gun Action Challenge Match 1-18-2014

2nd/45 Overall

Stage 3 (the first one in the video, the first I shot) was a good opportunity to shoot at 200-150 yards. The HAMR worked well on this stage, though I used the Aimpoint Micro for position three because of the way the sunlight was coming through the scope. The wide field of view on the HAMR match target to target transitions easy. Every other stage I used the Aimpoint micro mounted on top. I have the Aimpoint zeroed at 50 yards, and the bore offset isn’t much worse to deal with than standard tall Aimpoint micro mounts. I was only 2nd by 3 seconds, the 30-40 yard pistol shots on Stage 2 (last in the video) cost me. It’s been a while since I have shot that far with iron sights on a pistol.

Rifle:
GWACS Armory 16″ Lightweight CAV-15 MKII
TSD Kompressor
Samson Evo Rail
Leupold HAMR with Aimpoint Micro in Hahn Precision Mount
CMC Trigger

Pistol:
TSD Combat Systems Glock 17
Warren/Tactical/Sevigny Sights

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2014 SHOT Show

Here are some of the interesting things I saw at SHOT Show 2014

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Blue Force Gear’s Tacti-Raptor conquers all SHOT Show exhibits for now and all time!

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Crimson Trace Rail  Master Pro
This is a light/laser combo unit available with green or red laser and a 100 lumen light.  It runs on a single CR123 battery for up to an hour of continuous use.  It has 4 modes; laser only, light only, light and laser, and strobing light and laser.  MSRP $279 for red, $379 for Green.

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Glock 42 Subcompact .380. While I would have preferred to see this in 9mm.  It is small without being too small, and it has the same trigger pull and reset as a full size Glock.  This is a critical feature for continuity of training for shooters who use full size Glocks most of the time.

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Samson Manufacturing has released their own line of Aimpoint mounts and their own 3.5x magnifier.  I hope to do a complete review of these products in the future.

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Hornady’s new safe is the ideal balance of security and accessbility.  Users can use a mechanical key, combination code pad, magnetic card, or wrist band to open the safe.  When accessed the lid springs open presenting the handgun contained in a slot with thick foam on both sides.  It plugs into the wall and uses AA batteries for back up.  This design really addresses a lot of the things wrong with other electronic safes as far as ease of use goes.  MSRP will be around $250.00

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Safariland GLS holster.  The retention device is disengaged when the shooter grips the handgun naturally.

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New Safariland holster for red dot equipped pistols.  It has a cover that completely encloses the pistol protecting the sight from environmental conditions.  The cover swings out of the way on the draw.

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Safariland 7TS Injection Molded holsters.  These are available with both SLS or ALS mechanisms.  Safariland Reps stated that the material is stronger than their orginal holster designs.  MSRP is around $50.00.

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Magpul MOE AK47 Mag.  Significantly lighter than traditional AK mags.  These are supposed to work in the Sig 556R as well.

 

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GG&G offset irons are a fast to acquire ghost ring style.

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2 Gun Action Challenge Match 12-21-2013

Rifle: SIG 556R with Kompressor and Aimpoint M4
Pistol: TSD Combat Systems Glock 17 with Warren Tactical Sights

4th/39 Overall

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